Charlie Munger on Second-Level Thinking

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2023 · Daily Journal Corporation (transcript by Kingswell)

Daily Journal Corporation 2023 Annual Meeting (Full Q&A Transcript, February 15, 2023)

At the 2023 Daily Journal meeting - Munger's final DJCO appearance before his death later that year - he was asked why he preferred an investment in BYD to one in Tesla. His answer was pointed: Tesla, last year, reduced its prices in China twice and BYD increased its prices. They are direct competitors. BYD is so much ahead of Tesla in China, Munger told the room, that it is almost ridiculous. He went further, noting that if you counted all the manufacturing space BYD had in China to make cars, it would amount to a big percentage of all the land in Manhattan. He then gave the room BYD's recent numbers. BYD had made more than two billion dollars after taxes in the auto business in China the previous year. He asked who in the hell makes two billion as a brand new entrant in the auto business, for all practical purposes. It was, he said, incredible what had happened. The number was not a projection - it was a result. And it confirmed what he had been saying about BYD since the original 2008 investment: this was a real business with a real moat, not a speculative bet on a foreign manufacturer. Munger closed the BYD reflection with a structural point about capitalism itself. There was, he said, still some old-fashioned capitalist virtue left in the Daily Journal, and some left in Berkshire Hathaway, and some left in BYD. The virtue he meant was the one where the founder and chairman used his own stock - not the company's stock - to reward executives, because he believed the rewards should come out of his own hide. Most places, Munger said, everybody is trying to take what they need and just rationalizing whether it's deserved or not. The minority that operated differently, in his view, were the ones who compounded.

2019 · Daily Journal Corporation (notes via Investment Masters / Mastersinvest)

Daily Journal Corporation 2019 Annual Meeting (Notes on Charlie Munger's Remarks)

Munger closed the 2019 meeting with a series of operating lessons drawn from Berkshire's history. He pointed to the founding businesses of Berkshire Hathaway - a doomed department store, a doomed New England textile company, and a doomed trading stamp company - and said that out of that mix came Berkshire. They had handled those losing hands pretty well and they had bought into them very cheaply. But, Munger said, of course the success came from changing their ways and getting into better businesses. The lesson was that scrambling out of mistakes without letting them cost too much is a real and underappreciated part of long-run compounding. He sharpened the point. It isn't that we were so good at doing things that were difficult, he said. We were good at avoiding things that were difficult, and finding things that were easy. The inversion of the popular image of Berkshire - which celebrates Buffett and Munger as patient geniuses who solve the hardest problems - was deliberate. Munger was telling the room that the actual edge was in saying no to the hard stuff and saying yes only when the proposition was simple, durable, and within reach. He connected the lesson to expectations and to China. His advice to a seeker of compound interest that works ideally was to reduce expectations, because he thought returns were going to be tougher for a while, and that having realistic expectations made you less crazy. On China, he repeated his 2017 line: the great companies in China were cheaper than the great companies in the United States. And he closed with the too-hard pile again - there was a pile on his desk, he said, that solved most of his problems. Every once in a while an easy decision came along and he made it. That was the system.

2018 · Daily Journal Corporation (transcript archived by Worldly Partners)

Daily Journal Corporation 2018 Annual Meeting (Transcript of Charlie Munger's Remarks)

At the 2018 Daily Journal meeting, Munger returned to the theme of opportunity cost. The point he made to the audience was that Berkshire's discipline about saying no was not a virtue of caution but a virtue of focus. If they had one thing they could do more of, he said, they were not interested in anything that was not better than that. The rule simplified life a great deal. Anything that did not clearly exceed the next-best use of the marginal dollar was, in Munger's framing, a no - and the no was the active investment decision, not the absence of one. He tied the point to activity itself. It is amazing, Munger told the room, how intelligent it is to spend some time just sitting. A lot of people are just way too active. The observation was directed at the modern investor's bias toward doing something - anything - in response to market moves, news, or peer behavior. Munger's prescription was the opposite. The intelligent posture was to think, read, and wait, and to act only when the proposition in front of you was unambiguously better than the next-best alternative. He closed with the too-hard pile callback. Most of the propositions that came across his desk went onto the too-hard pile and stayed there. He did not feel guilty about that. The pile was the working part of his investment process. Every once in a while an easy decision came along, and he made it. That, Munger said, was his system. The audience was meant to take it as an actual system, not as false modesty - the discipline of refusing to invest in things you do not understand is, in Munger's view, the single most underrated competitive advantage an individual investor can have.

2017 · Daily Journal Corporation (Santangel's Review transcript, archived by SecurityAnalysis subreddit)

Daily Journal Corporation 2017 Annual Meeting (Transcript of Charlie Munger's Remarks)

At the 2017 Daily Journal meeting, Munger made one of his most explicit pitches for Chinese equities. Some very smart people were wading into China, he said, and he expected more to follow. His core observation was simple and structural: the great companies in China were cheaper than the great companies in the United States. He had been making the same observation privately for years, and at DJCO 2017 he made it on the record. Munger's reasoning was not a macro call. He was not predicting the renminbi, the Politburo's next move, or the exact timing of trade frictions. He was making a relative-value statement about the cost of buying world-class franchises in two markets. A great company in China, on the metrics he cared about - long-run return on capital, durability of the moat, growth runway - was available at a lower multiple than a comparable great company in the United States. That gap, in his view, was an opportunity for the patient investor who could underwrite the Chinese business honestly. The risk, he acknowledged, was real. China had governance, disclosure, and political-risk dimensions that American investors had to take seriously. But Munger's framing was that those risks had already been priced into the cheap multiples - that the market had over-discounted them. The implicit recommendation was to do the work, find the genuine franchises, and pay the cheaper price while other investors were still standing on the sideline. He would, of course, take his own advice in the BYD position - the Chinese EV maker he had championed at Berkshire a decade earlier and that, by 2017, was making real money.

2017 · Daily Journal Corporation (Santangel's Review transcript, archived by SecurityAnalysis subreddit)

Daily Journal Corporation 2017 Annual Meeting (Transcript of Charlie Munger's Remarks)

Munger told the 2017 audience that the Daily Journal and Berkshire Hathaway had succeeded, more than anything else, by refusing to attempt to know too much. He kept a too-hard pile on his desk, he said, and most of the problems that crossed his path got shifted onto it. Every once in a while an easy decision came along, and he made it. That, he said, was his entire system. The room laughed, but Munger meant it as a serious investment philosophy. He tied the too-hard pile to the discipline of patience. A normal human life does not have very many great decisions in it. He told the audience that if they actually counted the meaningful decisions made in the history of the Daily Journal Corporation or the history of Berkshire Hathaway, the number per year was not very high. The game was being there all the time, recognizing the rare opportunity when it came, and recognizing that normal human life does not contain very many such moments. He contrasted this with what he called the racetrack tout - the people who sell securities and act as though they have an endless supply of wonderful opportunities. Those people, Munger said, are not even respectable. They pretend to know a lot of stuff they do not know, and pretend to furnish opportunities they are not furnishing. His advice to the audience was to avoid them - unless, he added with characteristic dryness, you happen to be running a stock brokerage firm, in which case you need them. The honest investor's job was to recognize the rarity and to refuse to manufacture the frequent.

2007 · University of Southern California Gould School of Law (transcript via James Clear)

USC Gould School of Law Commencement Address (May 13, 2007)

Munger argued that the really big ideas carry ninety-five percent of the freight, and so acquiring them is not a heroic task but a discipline. He had been pushed into the discipline in law school when some wag offered the definition of a legal mind as one that could responsibly think about one thing while ignoring another. Munger found the proposition perfectly ridiculous, and it accelerated his natural drift toward learning all the big ideas and all the big disciplines. The alternative was to be a damn fool trying to reason about one aspect of a situation that could not be separated from the totality. He gave the room his standard method. If you can't be the best in the world at some narrow thing, he said, then become competent in all of the major disciplines and the big ideas in each. Economics, biology, psychology, physics, mathematics, history - the canon is finite and learnable. Then organize the ideas into a latticework of mental models and hang experience on the lattice as it accumulates. He warned that people who do not do this end up reaching for one hammer when the situation calls for a screwdriver. He grounded the whole approach in inversion. He liked to tell students that the way to be useful in life is not to figure out how to succeed directly, but to figure out how to fail - sloth, deceit, envy, self-pity, resentment - and then rigorously avoid those things. The clean, inverted formulation was his preferred intellectual move. Combined with the cross-disciplinary mental-models approach, he said, it had taken him further than IQ ever could have.

2003 · Wesco Financial Corporation (notes by Whitney Tilson, archived by Worldly Partners)

Wesco Financial 2003 Annual Meeting - Notes on Charlie Munger's Remarks (May 7, 2003)

The 2003 Wesco meeting is also notable as the public precursor to Munger's Psychology of Human Misjudgment speech. Tilson's notes flagged that Munger was, in the meeting, already working through the material that he would shortly deliver at Harvard as the 24 standard causes of human misjudgment. The Wesco audience heard the same psychological framework that the Harvard audience would hear, applied to insurance underwriting, banking, and corporate governance rather than to the general investor. Munger's argument, in both venues, was that the standard survey course in psychology had failed to give investors the tools they needed because the course had badly underweighted incentive-caused bias. He told the Wesco audience that if they read the standard thousand-page psychology text they would find, somewhere in the back, one sentence on incentive bias - and yet incentive bias was, in his experience, the single most powerful driver of bad decisions in business and investing. The prescription was to learn the real list of cognitive biases - the ones Munger had compiled from his own experience - and to apply them as rigorously to one's own decisions as to other people's. He closed with the lollapalooza warning. The really catastrophic failures of judgment, Munger said, came not from any single bias operating alone but from several biases reinforcing each other in the same direction. Incentive bias plus consistency bias plus social proof plus authority bias, all pointing the same way, could produce a decision that no individual bias could have produced on its own. The lollapalooza effect was the reason that crowds of intelligent people could collectively do very stupid things. The defense was the latticework of mental models - to recognize the lollapalooza pattern in real time and refuse to participate in it, even when the social pressure to participate was intense.

1995 · Harvard University (transcript via James Clear)

The Psychology of Human Misjudgment (Harvard, 1995)

Munger warned the Harvard audience about man-with-a-hammer syndrome - the tendency, once a thinker has acquired one powerful idea, to apply it to every problem as if it were a nail. His exhibit was B.F. Skinner, the Harvard behaviorist whose experiments were genuinely ingenious, counterintuitive, and important, and who by any honest reckoning belonged in the top handful of experimental scientists in the entire history of the university. And yet, Munger said, Skinner had developed one of the more extreme cases of man-with-a-hammer syndrome in the history of academia. The syndrome does not exempt bright people. He gave a second illustration, drawn from his Harvard Law School days. There had been a professor, naturally at Yale, who was derisively discussed at Harvard with the line, 'Poor old Blanchard. He thinks declaratory judgments will cure cancer.' That, Munger said, is the way Skinner got. He was literary, and he scorned opponents who had any different way of thinking or thought anything else was important. That is not the way to make a lasting reputation when the other people turn out to also be doing something important. Man-with-a-hammer is a reputation-killer. The practical investment takeaway Munger drew was the need for what he called a latticework of mental models - a deliberately cross-disciplinary kit of frameworks so that no single tool, however well-honed, becomes the lens through which everything is interpreted. The investor who reaches for discounted cash flow on every company, or for momentum on every tape, or for activist shorts on every crowded long, has contracted a serious case of the Skinner problem. The discipline of acquiring multiple models is the discipline of refusing to become a hammer.

1995 · Harvard University (transcript via James Clear)

The Psychology of Human Misjudgment (Harvard, 1995)

Munger named simple psychological denial as a powerful and common cause of misjudgment. The reality too painful to bear, he said, gets distorted until it is bearable. He told the audience about a family friend whose super-athlete, super-student son flew off a carrier in the north Atlantic and never came back. The mother, a very sane woman, simply never believed he was dead. He generalized it: turn on the television and you will find the mothers of the most obvious criminals that man could ever diagnose, and they all think their sons are innocent. He argued that we all do this to some extent, and that it is one of the most widespread misjudgments in real life. The investor who bought at the top, the founder whose product no longer fits the market, the manager whose division is rotting - all of them, Munger said, run some version of the same grief denial. The refusal to look at the disconfirming evidence, the refusal to mark to market in the head as well as in the books, is what turns a small loss into a permanent one. He paired the observation with a deeper psychological tendency: bias from consistency and commitment. People avoid cognitive dissonance by holding onto expressed conclusions, especially publicly expressed ones, with special persistence. Once a thesis has been written down or defended in front of others, the cost of revising it rises inside the mind even when it has fallen in the world. Munger's prescription was inversion again: force yourself to search for the disconfirming evidence as energetically as the confirming, and write down your thesis in a form that allows you to be wrong visibly rather than gradually.

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